Comments on: Queens Of The Stone Age: The True Meaning of Era Vulgaris http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris Justin Edwards lives in Brisbane. He has a camera. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:18:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Justin http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris#comment-24 Justin Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:48:50 +0000 http://www.notaphoto.com/?p=118#comment-24 Sandra: The Brisbane gig was the first date and although the contract has been put in front of photographers for their other headline shows (although not the V Festivals in each city) I get the feeling that I've been the only photographer to walk away. Everyone else has signed using the "it's not a legal contract/its not enforceable" theory. So I guess it depends how you want to play it. Good luck, hope it goes well. Meg: Thanks. I've largely been keeping my skillz secret by blogging on myspace but thought it was about time to whore myself to the world... Sandra: The Brisbane gig was the first date and although the contract has been put in front of photographers for their other headline shows (although not the V Festivals in each city) I get the feeling that I’ve been the only photographer to walk away. Everyone else has signed using the “it’s not a legal contract/its not enforceable” theory. So I guess it depends how you want to play it. Good luck, hope it goes well.

Meg: Thanks. I’ve largely been keeping my skillz secret by blogging on myspace but thought it was about time to whore myself to the world…

]]> By: meg sixx http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris#comment-23 meg sixx Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:12:41 +0000 http://www.notaphoto.com/?p=118#comment-23 yeah i have heard about that happening more and more around the place, especially in sydney. it seems like a lot of people who are new to gig photography and gagging for access are the people who are willing to sign, and thus they are the people who will inevitably allow this sort of contract to continue. if all photographers said no and the bands didn't get their all-important promo shots then those things would in large part disappear. ahhhhh ideals and theoreticals. great shots as usual, justin. i am enjoying your blogskillz. meg. yeah i have heard about that happening more and more around the place, especially in sydney.

it seems like a lot of people who are new to gig photography and gagging for access are the people who are willing to sign, and thus they are the people who will inevitably allow this sort of contract to continue.

if all photographers said no and the bands didn’t get their all-important promo shots then those things would in large part disappear. ahhhhh ideals and theoreticals.

great shots as usual, justin. i am enjoying your blogskillz.

meg.

]]> By: Sandra http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris#comment-22 Sandra Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:04:50 +0000 http://www.notaphoto.com/?p=118#comment-22 This worries me :( I'm shooting QoTSA May 14th in St.John's, NL and I won't be handing over my copyright. This worries me :( I’m shooting QoTSA May 14th in St.John’s, NL and I won’t be handing over my copyright.

]]> By: Lyla http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris#comment-11 Lyla Thu, 03 Apr 2008 04:28:29 +0000 http://www.notaphoto.com/?p=118#comment-11 That's a lame fuckin' contract. I doubt Josh knows about it, though, because there's no way he'd stand for that shit. That’s a lame fuckin’ contract.

I doubt Josh knows about it, though, because there’s no way he’d stand for that shit.

]]> By: Justin http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris#comment-10 Justin Thu, 03 Apr 2008 03:19:08 +0000 http://www.notaphoto.com/?p=118#comment-10 Sure. Any band of that size employs management/people etc to work on their behalf and do the things that need to be done without running everything through the band and getting their ok. But the only name on the contract is QOTSA - the "you" that the contract is being made with ("the musical group collectively know as Queens Of The Stone Age") and the witness signature is ("An authorized signatory o/b/o (on behalf of) Queens Of The Stone Age"). Assuming Josh Homme IS QOTSA (in that he owns the rights to the name, although in theory it could be owned by their management or even the record company), under the strictest interpretation of the contract HE owns the copyright to the photos if you signed the contract. He might not know about it, but as the benefactor of the contract (which is highly likely) there's an element of guilty by association. And it gave me poetic licence to add in about what he said about "the Vulgar Era" and wanting to be a part of it :) Sure. Any band of that size employs management/people etc to work on their behalf and do the things that need to be done without running everything through the band and getting their ok.

But the only name on the contract is QOTSA - the “you” that the contract is being made with (”the musical group collectively know as Queens Of The Stone Age”) and the witness signature is (”An authorized signatory o/b/o (on behalf of) Queens Of The Stone Age”). Assuming Josh Homme IS QOTSA (in that he owns the rights to the name, although in theory it could be owned by their management or even the record company), under the strictest interpretation of the contract HE owns the copyright to the photos if you signed the contract. He might not know about it, but as the benefactor of the contract (which is highly likely) there’s an element of guilty by association.

And it gave me poetic licence to add in about what he said about “the Vulgar Era” and wanting to be a part of it :)

]]> By: Xavier http://www.notaphoto.com/queens-of-the-stone-age-the-true-meaning-of-era-vulgaris#comment-9 Xavier Wed, 02 Apr 2008 17:38:13 +0000 http://www.notaphoto.com/?p=118#comment-9 I occasionally take concert photographs for a music website and I went to shoot QOTSA when they came to Barcelona last february. The promoter rep for their spanish shows (a very cool girl) didn't ask me to sign any kind of contract and we were about 5 photographers in the pit, so I guess you don't really have to blame Josh Homme or the band for what happened to you, just the staff that surrounds them. But anyway, I totally agree with what you say. The guy you had to deal with was really abusive and a complete asshole. I occasionally take concert photographs for a music website and I went to shoot QOTSA when they came to Barcelona last february. The promoter rep for their spanish shows (a very cool girl) didn’t ask me to sign any kind of contract and we were about 5 photographers in the pit, so I guess you don’t really have to blame Josh Homme or the band for what happened to you, just the staff that surrounds them.

But anyway, I totally agree with what you say. The guy you had to deal with was really abusive and a complete asshole.

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